TRAINER'S EYE #158 - "Mew Dances Across the Barrier Between Worlds" ft. dejamewmew

What happens when your first Pokémon game becomes your lifelong comfort franchise?

As The Pokeball Turns welcomes dejamewmew, a cozy VTuber and Twitch streamer who built her brand around her love for Mew, pink aesthetics, and the emotional connection she felt with the Sinnoh region. Her Pokémon journey began with Pokémon Diamond on the Nintendo DS, and it’s been a space of nostalgia, discovery, and creativity ever since.

From choosing Infernape and Lucario as childhood team staples to bonding with her dad over Pokémon GO, dejamewmew shares how the franchise has shaped her family connections and identity. She also talks about what it means to be a VTuber, how streaming helped her build confidence, and her thoughts on Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pear.

Whether you grew up playing Sinnoh, a Pokémon GO player, or curious about cozy VTuber spaces, this is an episode you don’t want to miss!

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Opening Song: "Forget You" by Alex_MakeMusic from Pixabay

Chapters

• 0:00 TRAINER'S EYE #158 - DejaMewMew
• 15:17 Commerical Break

Transcript

TRAINER'S EYE #158 - DejaMewMew

DejaMewMew: [00:00:00] my name is DejaMewMew, and this is my Pokemon story.

David Hernandez: Welcome to As The Pokeball Turns, where we interview people about their experience with Pokemon. name is David Hernandez. I'm joined by DejaMewMew, a v YouTuber on Twitch that describes her space as the cozy side of the universe [00:01:00] Here to welcome her presence on the podcast. DejaMewMew, welcome to As The Pokeball Turns.

DejaMewMew: Hi.

David Hernandez: Thank you for coming on, and I wanted to start off with this question because obviously you're named after Mew, kind of wanted to know what's the connection behind that, if you don't mind sharing.

DejaMewMew: Mew, I think is just, it has my heart internally in all everything, but it's like a combo of things like I love puns, I love cats, and I love the Pokemon Mew, so it's everything all smushed together in one easy name that rolls off your tongue. For most people,

David Hernandez: For most people, okay. I.

DejaMewMew: had people who call me like dj, like, like James.

DejaMewMew: I'm like, uh, not quite.

David Hernandez: so was Mew like your initial favorite Pokemon? Because Muse was one of the classic 1 51. Like did it like strict stick to you right then and there.

DejaMewMew: I saying I started in gen four, so like I didn't ever play gen one until really? Let's [00:02:00] GO Eevee. So like, I remember watching the first Pokemon movie. I think that's where I had that like initial gut reaction is like, it looks like a cat. I like cats pink. Yes.

David Hernandez: And since then Mew become of your branded mascot in

DejaMewMew: Yeah. whenever I started streaming, I was like, I always liked Pokemon, so I know there's a couple shots of like Mew flying through space and I was like, okay, so this kind of makes sense as a brand to put everything together, all fit.

David Hernandez: for me, the one thing that I really enjoyed was during the Pokemon, the first movie, the one you saw, I love when Mew was just playing on the windmill and, uh,

DejaMewMew: The bubbles. The bubbles.

David Hernandez: the bubbles, and then it was going Mew, Mew, Mew, and it was just kind of going up and down. Like

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: of playful nature of me that I really admire the most.

DejaMewMew: And there's also the opening shot of Mew rising up in the bubble as well.

David Hernandez: Oh yeah. Forget about that one. The bubble when it comes out in the lake, and it's

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: I wonder if that was the one that was born. I can't remember. It's been so long since. See the movie.

DejaMewMew: [00:03:00] I remember like watching a, like a old vs tape, like it like, I don't know if VS or like cd, but like in the back of like a car, like I, it's, it's that old, it's

David Hernandez: You said you started with gen four.

DejaMewMew: mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: rich in as far as Pokemon's history. What do you remember about playing that game and the setting the story or any specific moments?

DejaMewMew: I think I got into Pokemon initially from the Pokemon when they were playing like Diamond and Pearl. So I think that was the most recent game that was out then. And I remember saving up buying the game. And then going into my first experience of going into the briefcase and grabbing that chi char and setting off on my very first journey.

DejaMewMew: I just remember, I think just in general, the excitement and the of the adventure of playing on A DSI for the very first time. And. Just enjoying the overall experience and kind of the open world. 'cause that was really my [00:04:00] true intro into video games. I've watched like my dad play video games, but it was my very first like video game by myself.

David Hernandez: Wow. So was kind of the one where you, I guess your dad didn't join you even though he was a gamer. Is that kind of what it sounds like?

DejaMewMew: Yeah, it was like my first console and he never really got into Pokemon, which is funny enough until like Pokemon Go.

DejaMewMew: So I was definitely the Pokemon nerd.

David Hernandez: What is it about Pokemon specifically that you think maybe hooked you into the franchise? Like is it the Pokemon, maybe the regions or?

DejaMewMew: probably a combo of both. Like you have the cute Pokemon of course, but it's like that world building, like kind of how I feel like if you read Manga or you watch anime, you kind of get immersed into that different world. I think for Pokemon. That was me.

David Hernandez: It sounds like you got so many different ways to do it though. 'cause on one hand you've got the video games, you're playing gen four, but then on the other hand you said you watched the anime and

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: they were as far as Ash's journey,

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm. Yep.

David Hernandez: you were just straight up Sinnoh from the get go, man.

DejaMewMew: Yeah, I was, I was born in, [00:05:00] I was raised in Sinnoh.

David Hernandez: I was born on these streets.

DejaMewMew: I remember that meme going around. I was like, yep. Yep.

David Hernandez: When it comes to just playing SInnoh region, What was the 6.

David Hernandez: Pokemon that you would choose to play that game, or maybe even the six Pokemon you would choose now?

DejaMewMew: I remember it is like a combo of probably diamond and platinum, but definitely CHimchar, I have a strong love for Infernape.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DejaMewMew: don't know why, but like, Lucario, when like getting that egg and hatching it. Something about Lucario,. I remember having Lucario for. Multiple games growing up and playing the different gens. Somehow Lucario always made it on my team. Don't know why

David Hernandez: really. So is it like maybe your second favorite it sounds like? Or is it kind

DejaMewMew: I, I just don't know what attachment. I just, I just think I always knew it was a strong Pokemon and could handle a good range of moves

David Hernandez: Fair

DejaMewMew: because I always like built my teams very casually. I never really. Cared so much about typings. It's just more like, okay, if I [00:06:00] have this range of moves, I can have a team for any situation.

DejaMewMew: I mean, I would love to have Mew on team now, but like originally playing through gen four, you don't have a chance to get Mew unless you had it in other games.

David Hernandez: Right.

DejaMewMew: probably Togekiss. I really liked Togekiss a lot.

David Hernandez: Ooh, good choice. I love that one.

DejaMewMew: like, after playing PLA, I have the such strong love of, Gastro.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm. Oh, the sea slug.

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm. I love that.

DejaMewMew: Sea slug. Um,

David Hernandez: one? Uh, blue or pink. Outta

DejaMewMew: oh oh pink

David Hernandez: I figured I just had to make sure I had to get on record.

DejaMewMew: uhhuh. Probably one of the e evolutions. I just love the evolution so, so much.

David Hernandez: Like the ones for Gen four or the ones you eight? Any of them Really?

DejaMewMew: Any of them really,

DejaMewMew: but Oh, it's just like they're such a good group. But if I had to pick one,

David Hernandez: I mean, if you wanna load up with DV evolutions for your final two, by all means, I'm not gonna say no to that.

DejaMewMew: it was just [00:07:00] hard to think. 'cause like In the moment, I always change up my teams until probably the eighth gym where it's kind of set for Jen, the for the Elite four. Off the top of my head, I think I would typically have the games legendary for some reason. So like if I was playing Diamond, I would have always have Dialga.

DejaMewMew: If I was playing platinum, I would have Giratina. So probably depends on the game, but definitely the game's. Legendary.

David Hernandez: Okay. And then the EV evolution would be

DejaMewMew: Yeah. Glaze on,

David Hernandez: Yeah. Lac,

DejaMewMew: I probably have glaze on.

David Hernandez: stuck it in there. I like

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: Now I'm the same way. Like I would always use for those specifically, I would use Diamond for Dialga.

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: Pia was Pearl. That was actually my favorite of the three actually. I love Pia

DejaMewMew: Ah,

David Hernandez: um, Gina for platinum, whenever I would play it.

DejaMewMew: mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: know, I just feel like that they, it felt right, you know?

DejaMewMew: It is like the, it's on the front of the game. I better darn use it.

David Hernandez: Yeah. I feel like it's a meant for me to use. I know it may be overpowered, but that's not my problem. That's game freaks,

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm. They [00:08:00] gave it to me.

David Hernandez: Exactly. Exactly. But it's kind of cool. You know, you start with gen four, that's kind of your BA starting generation. Did you progress into Gen five or

DejaMewMew: Hmm. I played gen five, gen six, gen seven, and then when the switch was coming out, I didn't get switched till a couple years down the line, so I didn't play sword until like beginning of this year. Like, it, it was, yeah, it, I had a long break between gen seven, gen eight.

David Hernandez: Was it just due to the cost or you just by choice? You just didn't wanna touch

DejaMewMew: I think it was just life.

David Hernandez: Hey, I get that. Yeah.

DejaMewMew: I was like, uh, I don't need a switch right now. I have so many other priorities, so I didn't get one till. I kind of was like, yeah, it's probably about time. I should get a switch.

David Hernandez: Right. out of those generations you mentioned, what are, I guess, your favorite generation? Like what's one set of games that you enjoyed playing?

DejaMewMew: Oh gosh. like each, region has, its like own quirks, own [00:09:00] personality really to them.

DejaMewMew: I still remember playing Gen five and just running around the region 'cause it was just so expensive and so many new Pokemon, especially because they gave, started all over and then playing the next game.

DejaMewMew: Black and white too. And just having seen the different story, I, I also really loved End as a kid, so I still love End now.

David Hernandez: Aw.

DejaMewMew: So those games really stood out to me. And then like you have like the classic Cynthia, you know, in Umbrella Town at the end game,

David Hernandez: well, what about in, I guess, appeals to you? I've always, I've always heard there's like a little in fan club, like what is it about in, do you remember that I guess, appeals to

DejaMewMew: I think.

David Hernandez: favorite characters?

DejaMewMew: I think just the broodiness of the character, like the kind of mystery behind him because like you kind of get introduced to him as like he's the bad guy, but then you're kind of playing through and he is like, he's kind of on his own journey, you know, like he's kind of associated with them, but he [00:10:00] doesn't really want to be them.

DejaMewMew: He's just kind of like a puppet. And so kind of having that, like he's having his own self journey alongside you as the trainer, going for your gym challenges and everything. I think you kind of, I gotta get to admire and also his character design is really good.

David Hernandez: and that's even the thing, I felt like N was more of what teen plasma ideally was supposed to be. Of

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: corrupt through gist, but you know, and actually believed in that mission that.

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: were slaves and that they should have been free. 'cause you know, he had that kind of, unique Kinesis or

DejaMewMew: Yeah.

David Hernandez: telekinesis to be able to understand Pokemon's feelings, which I don't think has really been replicated again, anywhere in the franchise outside of maybe meow from Team Rocket.

DejaMewMew: Yeah. But me, I also just speaks rather than like, I don't know, like other than like probably Ash is probably the closest 'cause you get. Like in the newer season, definitely had that like link with Luca and Link with GR Ninja and like that Pikachu, like he can [00:11:00] kind of look at Pokemon and kind of feel what they're feeling is probably the closest I could think of the end.

David Hernandez: Let's do a fun question real quick. If you were to gonna have N,

David Hernandez: I,

David Hernandez: be like a guest of your Twitch stream, which we'll talk about later, what kind of questions would you want to ask him? What would you

DejaMewMew: oh gosh.

David Hernandez: the character?

DejaMewMew: Where are you now?

DejaMewMew: Come back, come back to the main series though. Um, I think it's just like, generally, like how is he on his journey? 'cause like basically once he kind of departed, like that was really all we saw of him and just kind of. There's still like an open air mystery of like, where is he? What's he doing now?

DejaMewMew: Like he was a strong trainer and to like have someone like that kind of like end at the top of Mt. Silver, you know, it's like with these strong trainers, they don't show up too often, so it's like always curious about like, where are they now?

DejaMewMew: What are they doing?

David Hernandez: yeah, especially because I think he rode off with [00:12:00] on a Reshiram

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: Zekrom, I think the last time we saw him, if I remember

DejaMewMew: Yeah.

David Hernandez: depending on what Virginia played,

David Hernandez: I've always wondered how did he recover from the betrayal of Ghetesis? That's one question I've always wanted to ask him, like, how do you come back from that and not be more jaded against humans, you know?

DejaMewMew: Yeah. I think the best thing about N is like you can definitely tell that he has a sense of forgiveness to him and like slowly that understanding of like. He has such a strong bond with Pokemon. I think it kind of is a two-way street where the Pokemon also can help him as well.

David Hernandez: Was there any point when you were playing Pokemon Black and white, or black and white too? That. N's story really kind of hit you and made you rethink of how you saw maybe the interaction with Pokemon trainers that you didn't see beforehand.

DejaMewMew: I think the most like startling thing is like walk into his room in N's castle 'cause you like can see like all his toys as his kid and it's like kind of reminiscing. It's like, oh, like he also had a childhood. 'cause I feel like we don't get that like age progression [00:13:00] much in Pokemon. Like you kind of start, when you're starting out on your journey, you don't get like a history of like how you grew up, you know?

DejaMewMew: So it's like seeing how N grew up as a kid and then be like, you can kind of relate to, it's like, oh. This is how he grew up. This is how I grew up. We sometimes had the similar toys, but like very different circumstances.

David Hernandez: Now. you said you progressed through the games afterwards, so after

DejaMewMew: Hmm

David Hernandez: we're kind of going to three DS era to where X and Y. We've got Sun, moon, you know,

David Hernandez: What kind of games from those generations do you remember the most?

DejaMewMew: Probably x.

David Hernandez: What do you remember about 'em?

DejaMewMew: I think I just remember like all the customization choices. 'cause that was a very first game. I remember. You could change your hair, you could change your clothes, you could have skates. I remember skates very fondly. Bring back the skates, please.

DejaMewMew: And like with the joys, like the really, the joysticks were how you got a lot of movement around those games too.

David Hernandez: It made it useful getting around, I think it was Lumino City, you know? 'cause it

DejaMewMew: Mm.

David Hernandez: could just go [00:14:00] faster or something. Like a bike on wheels really?

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm. And now we're going back.

David Hernandez: Man. I'm hoping they bring those backs, man. I think that's the one thing I do miss. I miss the customization. 'cause I feel like,

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: as had a deep customization sense.

David Hernandez: It just seemed like they kind of backed away for some reason.

DejaMewMew: I know Soren Shield had quite good combination, but that's about it. Like it definitely was. Going back to Scarlet and Viol, you're like, Ooh.

David Hernandez: For you. Did being able to customize your character help you feel more connected or kind of immersed in that world, do you

DejaMewMew: Mm. Oh, definitely. I think just kind of like. How you can customize character to either be you, be a character you like or someone like you wanna be, I think is always like a cool thing and cool kind of immersion factor that Pokemon allows.

David Hernandez: I always feel bad 'cause I'm always the basic, uh, kind of bitch out there. I just keep with the stick. I don't, I never really mess with the customization too much. Although I did buy some shirt. I always saw the collection side. I always wanna buy every single shirt possible. More so than really trying to wear it sometimes.

DejaMewMew: Yeah, I [00:15:00] gotta collect them. All right.

David Hernandez: Yes. Buy those expensive, $10,000 worth of, uh, shoes.

DejaMewMew: Uhhuh, you, you gotta get, you gotta be snobby enough. Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: Yep. Yep. Yeah, exactly. I gotta know that I'm above you and you gotta make sure you recognize

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

Commerical Break

[00:16:00]

David Hernandez: You know, you mentioned how your dad got into Pokemon through Pokemon Go, which is, you know, fairly unique. Did you kind of join him on that journey at all? Do y'all kind of connected in that way?

DejaMewMew: I started it. I guess I was playing it when it was released in Europe and instead in the US

David Hernandez: Ooh, look at you being so fancy.

DejaMewMew: I, yeah, no, it was like time zones. Um, and I really enjoyed about Pokemon Go is like going out and exploring in that very first Real life, Pokemon World, EMO immersion meeting, real life immersion, kinda like cross was what really I loved.

DejaMewMew: And then since I was playing on my dad's phone, 'cause he was the only one that had data, thanks. Um, of course he saw it and then he got hooked on it because he loves that kind of like. Geocaching experience. So like he was always a lot more like the fighting and hunting and walking around the venturing, like it kind of captured him.

DejaMewMew: He's actually a higher [00:17:00] level than me right now in Pokemon Go.

David Hernandez: Hey, yo. He's out doing his daughter. I like this story.

DejaMewMew: He plays it more than me,

DejaMewMew: Why do

DejaMewMew: he still doesn't know Pokemon tights, which cracks me up.

David Hernandez: I mean, come on, your dad just general Pokemon Go after. Was it? That was six generations. You gotta give the boy break.

DejaMewMew: But like he'll be battling it and he's like, I dunno why, like what to choose. I'm like, gotta look at a type chart.

David Hernandez: Well, that's when you're supposed to step in teaching. You're supposed to be the professor to his journey. Come on. This is the roles reverse right here.

DejaMewMew: I was like, just, just pick Meltan.

David Hernandez: Oh my God. Why Meltan of all Pokemon

DejaMewMew: Oh, he's tank you. My Melton

David Hernandez: are you

DejaMewMew: Melton? Uh, yeah, that one

David Hernandez: okay. I was like, dang. You're sending your dad to the, just use a team of melt ins for a raid.

DejaMewMew: I think it's like, 'cause like you have to get it through. Let's go

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DejaMewMew: like the spawners. So like, I helped him out with that. I, I [00:18:00] was, I was coach. Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: There you go. Okay. So you did help your dad a little bit. You didn't just

DejaMewMew: Oh, definitely. No, I'm not gonna let 'em out in the wild.

David Hernandez: that's what you made it. You just made it sound like you gave him all go with a team of Meltan. Like that's what made came to my mind like, man, she's vicious.

DejaMewMew: No, I think he eventually was able to beat one through trial and error, but,

David Hernandez: Okay. You said, you know, you were in a different country, you were in Europe when Pokemon Go debuted, you know,

DejaMewMew: mm.

David Hernandez: got into it that way. what do you remember about those initial days being in a different country and, playing in that area wherever you were?

DejaMewMew: it was interesting. Definitely. 'cause it was like I did not know anything. And that was like when it was released, it was so sparse. Like there was as many Pokestops or gym as there is now, or as many like raids. Like there's so much now in Pokemon Go in comparison to when it was launched.

DejaMewMew: But I was just remember like walking around, you're like, oh, that's a Pikachu. You know?

David Hernandez: Oh, And when did your dad, was your dad also part of that initial wave or did he come later? As far as his [00:19:00] interest was, was

DejaMewMew: Um, I remember like I logged into my Google account and then I think he, like, you could switch between Google accounts then. So I think we kind of all took turns playing.

David Hernandez: And then I guess he got his own account and started y'all playing together.

DejaMewMew: yeah, we just, and then like when I got my own phone, like there's a couple times where like, we'll meet up and, we'll, if we're hanging out, we'll like go for a walk and play PokemonGo together, but,

David Hernandez: Aw, that's so sweet. I love that. What is it kind of like, I guess to flip the script? You know, it's usually, it's the dad teaching the daughter, but in this case it's the daughter teaching the dad about a world that you truly love and enjoy.

DejaMewMew: ,

DejaMewMew: I think it's just, it's like a unique bonding experience. 'cause there are times where he's just so excited over like the tiniest little thing and you're just kind of like, it brings a smile to your face. 'cause you're like, normally that would, wouldn't even phase you as a veteran Pokemon player. But seeing someone find excitement in something so tiny is so exciting, you

David Hernandez: Could you

DejaMewMew: know?

David Hernandez: an example of something like that? Just real quick?

DejaMewMew: I just remember him [00:20:00] like putting the AR feature and like putting a wild Pokemon next to like the cat and you're like, it's such a silly feature, but it's kind of really funny.

David Hernandez: Aw. I guess since you're putting one's in favor you, did he like put Mew next to the cat and take a picture that way? Maybe.

DejaMewMew: I don't even know if he has one.

David Hernandez: Really? He never finished the quest.

DejaMewMew: I. Don't. He probably did. He's always like a, he loves the finish quest, but I don't think he ever really like sent me a picture with Theil. No.

David Hernandez: Okay, you got, okay, dad, if you're listening to this podcast, you got one job and one job to do. Take a picture of the cat, send it to your daughter of the cat with the Mew. That's all you gotta do. That was very cool. That's very touchy. I love stories like that, so I like to dive into it as much as I can. 'cause you don't get to hear that too often, especially 'cause sometimes parents, for some reason they don't get into Pokemon games. But for some reason Pokemon Goes is what appeals to them.

DejaMewMew: I,

David Hernandez: that's

DejaMewMew: I think it's just that like real life aspect to it,

David Hernandez: Dang.

DejaMewMew: also on their [00:21:00] phone, so it's a lot more accessible.

David Hernandez: Um, So, you know, you talked about your experience with your dad playing Pokemon Go. we mentioned earlier how you were a Twitch streamer,

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: do VT tubing and um, you do it as a hobby it sounds like. What made you wanna dive into that?

DejaMewMew: So I didn't stream right away. When I found about Twitch, I took me a while even to get to Twitch. Like I found Twitch through YouTube, specifically Point Crow. and I found him off of Zelda 'cause I loved when Breath of Wild came out loving all the breath of wild content. 'cause I was a Zelda girl at heart.

DejaMewMew: like Zelda, Pokemons, that's why half, like a half, oh, not half and half, but a good chunk of my channels dedicated to both. And through watching his videos and I was like, oh, his dreams on Twitch. So I went over to his Twitch I really like discovery page is like.

DejaMewMew: Always so, such a mystery to me. 'cause I always will like clicked on some streamers and eventually I found myself in a really [00:22:00] nice group of people and I love them all so much. And they were all like supportive. And I was like, once I graduated college I was like, I was always obeying about streaming is like I can't stream while in college.

DejaMewMew: So I may wait till after I graduate and then I'll reassess. I was found such a supportive network for them that I was like, okay, I'll, I'll give streaming a try. And then I streamed October, 2022 and I had 50 followers within about a week, and then I got affiliate or early November. So

David Hernandez: Wow. So you

DejaMewMew: like a couple weeks between the two.

David Hernandez: Do you ever kind of wish that there was some adaptability of what you see in that game? Come into Pokemon.

DejaMewMew: I mean, we kind of have some aspects of it in Legends Arceus, and then in Scarlet and Violet as well with the open world concept. But it's definitely a very different feeling from playing like breath of wild tears of the Kingdom than the playing Scarlet Violet. I [00:23:00] am not talking about, all the glitches you can find in Scarlet Violet or happen upon like I did.

DejaMewMew: Um, but I think Scarlet and Violet's more kind of community based, like multiplayer based. While Brea Wild and Zelda are, is a lot more like single player. Like there is like a couple games that are like devoted to multiplayer, but it's not like you could do a single story and then like join a whole online community, you know,

David Hernandez: Right.

DejaMewMew: breath of the wild.

DejaMewMew: And it's a lot more like a fighting versus like Pokemon or your cute capsule creatures. So it's like such a big difference between the two games. I don't know if I would want, A direct like breath of wild Pokemon game. 

David Hernandez: because you know you started VT tubing, what made you kind of want to have your own avatar? Like was it just natural 'cause you want to kind of per respect your privacy? Or is it just you like the idea of VT tubing?

DejaMewMew: I think a combo of both. Like I was always like, starting out streaming. I was very shy. I didn't really wanna show my [00:24:00] ever, show my face on camera. Like I've also had friends who were also like, no cam streamers as well. So it was like, I kind of knew, it was like, it can be normal, it can happen, you know?

DejaMewMew: But then I was like, I found V YouTubers and I was like, oh, this is my rabbit hole. I always like loved manga. I always loved anime, so I was like, okay, I can become one, you know, and I can put my own very spin to it. And I didn't start off with a normal V tuber model. I started out as a pink tuber, and then a friend also got into VT tubing and she used a 3D model.

DejaMewMew: So I got into, it was like a free 3D model software called oid. So I made my own and that I used for. I think a couple months until I started planning out my own life 2D model, which is an investment I will say.

David Hernandez: So last thing I wanna talk about, because you started your Pokemon journey on Diamond and Pearl

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.[00:25:00]

David Hernandez: of course, we had the remix. Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. I want to ask like what your thoughts were like, what did you think of the remix? Did they capture? What made that region special?

David Hernandez: Did they leave you wanting more?

DejaMewMew: Honestly, disappointed was my first reaction. I was like, it had some aspects, but you're like, I wish it was platinum. I wish it had X, y, and z. I didn't mind the underworld revamp. I didn't, I was like, I really wish we had the secret caves. 'cause like I loved about the underground is all the traps you could fall into.

DejaMewMew: And they did not have that same chaos.

David Hernandez: Really. So you wanted the chaos to come

DejaMewMew: Oh, absolutely, because like I played Diamond and Pearl and Platinum and I didn't really play online with friends at that point. So it's like when BDSP came around, I was like, okay, that's a really online game. it was like, I wish I had more interaction, rather than y'all running around trying to [00:26:00] find Diglett to increase your shiny hots.

David Hernandez: Oh my God.

DejaMewMew: It seems such a silly gimmick, but like I really loved the traps and like you could bury gems in the wall and other people could find it. You know, it's just that like slow interaction and it's like one of the, you could do it in passing, you know.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DejaMewMew: It's not like you had to do it directly.

David Hernandez: Do you think your younger self, you know, playing gen four would recognize the person today?

DejaMewMew: Recognize like me as I am today.

David Hernandez: Yeah.

DejaMewMew: That's a good question because I don't know, like there are some aspects of me that like I'm still very much the same person, but others like I'm definitely a lot more brave, a lot more confident to reach out to other people and to be like, okay, let's do X, Y, and Z now.

DejaMewMew: I, I think it's, I'm still that same, like I love to explore every single alley, every single trash can and Pokemon.

DejaMewMew: gotta make sure they're [00:27:00] not empty, you know?

David Hernandez: yeah. I still do that to this day. Both in real life and Pokemon.

DejaMewMew: Oh, that, oh, that's of interest.

David Hernandez: But it's true though. 'cause I'll go through every single region. I'm like, I think there may be something here and there's nothing there, but it's like there could be something there,

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: know. 'cause otherwise it keep me up all night.

DejaMewMew: I always love the Easter eggs they put in the games.

David Hernandez: Well, DejaMewMew, I wanna finish on this final

DejaMewMew: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: If somebody was out there thinking of being a V YouTuber, since you're from that space, what advice would you give them and what would you tell them?

DejaMewMew: I would say don't let VT tubing intimidate you While it may seem like, oh, I must have like so much money to get a model, I literally started on a free model. there's so many different customizable models as well that a lot is more approachable. So like. The best thing is like if you wanna get into V-Tubing, do it.

DejaMewMew: You know, like don't be afraid to put yourself out there 'cause you never know what may happen.

David Hernandez: And if they [00:28:00] wanna check out your content, where can they go? By all means, please plug away.

DejaMewMew: So I stream mainly on Friday, Saturday, Sunday on Twitch.tv/dejamewmew, all low caps please. But I always love to stream a lot of Pokemon, a lot of Zelda and some other. Games from time to time. I is always cozy and sometimes chat can be chaotic. So you know, if you love chaos, you can join.