As The Pokeball Turns

TRAINER'S EYE #134 - "Finding Love By Drawing Pokemon Cards" ft. PenPeaches & NobleJanobii

• David Hernandez • Season 1 • Episode 138

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In this Pokemon interview, we are joined by both PenPeaches & NobleJanobii, a  Pokemon Trainer couple who find their interest art by looking at the art of the Pokemon TCG.

Both PenPeaches & NobleJanobii dive into their experience with Pokemon starting with Pokemon TCG before talking about Pokemon webcomics. They each talk about the community and how it led to them meeting each other. They also share their interest in the video games ranging from the Pokemon main series games to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series.

Finally, PenPeaches & NobleJanobii give insight into some of their Pokemon art they have drawn and the inspiration behind each piece.

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NobleJanobii:

I'm Noble Janobiart,

PenPeaches:

I am Penpeaches, and this is my Pokémon story.

NobleJanobii:

and this is my Pokémon story.

David Hernandez:

Welcome to As the Pokemon Ball turns, we interview people about their experience with Pokemon. My name is David Hernandez, I have a two for one special. I have Noble Geno Art. And Pan Peaches, both of y'all, welcome to the show.

NobleJanobii:

Thank you for having us.

David Hernandez:

Oh, now

PenPeaches:

sync there.

David Hernandez:

earlier? Before we record, they tried for like five minutes to try to sync up their beginning part, and all of a sudden now, they decided to sync up together, mind to mind. Oh my gosh. But,

NobleJanobii:

to be.

David Hernandez:

right, right.

PenPeaches:

Mm hmm.

David Hernandez:

thank you all both for coming on and how about we, share the people who are listening, you know, how do y'all know each other? What's the story behind that before we dive into the whole Pokemon stuff? If y'all willing to share.

PenPeaches:

So, we were both into, like, Pokemon comics as, like, young kids, I guess. And, you know, we would try to Google this kind of stuff on the internet. and we both ended up on, like, a defunct website. And,

NobleJanobii:

Jeeves, for any of the people out there who are familiar, RIP. Yeah,

PenPeaches:

yeah. And we were both kind of in like the Pokemon comic sphere. I saw her commenting on like another popular Pokemon artist's like webcomic. And I think we were both like in the same like art competition contest for them. Yeah.

NobleJanobii:

that artist hosted a phone case design contest, she had like a clear phone case, and so you could draw something for it, and I think I ended up winning it.

PenPeaches:

Yeah. Haha. but then you came across my comic somehow.

NobleJanobii:

I did. I don't even, I think it was because, the, the artist was Pokemon trainer Gigi. She did like these Q& A things, and so she would have like, it was kind of akin to what Askvlogging is now, where people would send in characters and ask questions of her characters, and she would draw the responses, and your characters interacted with hers on a couple of different occasions, and so I think I found your comment through that. And so I started reading up on it through that, and then you did like that cameo call because you were having the sentry duty, chapter for, it was a Pokemon Explorers of Sky comic.

PenPeaches:

Mm

NobleJanobii:

And so they were having like different people come through to be like the footprints for the sentry duty. And I sent in one of my OCs and that's, that's basically how we met.

David Hernandez:

Oh,

PenPeaches:

Yep.

David Hernandez:

So was this like, based on the original manga or artists like making their own kind of comics with Pokemon?

PenPeaches:

It was kind of like, we were fans of like a certain thing of our own niches, and like I was in the PMD niche of like that webcomic site.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, you'll notice if you, um. Ever delve into the Pokemon webcomic scenes, there's a lot of different niches. You'll have people who do like original comics, like Shinka the Last Eevee is probably one of the most notorious ones because it was really big back when we first met and then it got rebooted. More recently and actually just finished this run then there's other ones that are like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon comics where they take, the premise of the different mystery dungeon games and basically make it their own. And then there's like the Nuzlocke comics, which all, you know, they, they do a Nuzlocke and then they interpret it, that way. and then there's some people who just do like regular playthroughs of the games or just, you know, They'll take, like, the formula of, like, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and do, their own spin on it. that was where, like, PMD Victory Fire, like, saw. PMD Victory Fire integrated elements of the other games, but PMD Victory Fire, um, and there's a couple other ones out there, put their own original flavor on, uh, the setting and made it kind of their own thing. And that's seen a lot of popularity, especially recently.

David Hernandez:

how long have y'all been together?

PenPeaches:

Oh gosh. Um.

David Hernandez:

It's been that long. All right.

NobleJanobii:

So it'll be five years next month. We've been friends since, uh, we met in 2013. So we've been friends for over a decade now. We ended up kind of going our separate ways and then we reconnected when I was in college, through discord so, uh, cause we've been friends on Skype and so.

PenPeaches:

And DeviantArt.

NobleJanobii:

And DeviantArt, that's true. and so when you linked your Skype contacts with Discord, Discord was like, hey, this person that you're friends with on Skype, is on Discord. And so I ended up getting like a friend thing where it was saying like, hey, so and so that you're friends with on Skype is here. And it was actually Peach's, uh, sibling.

PenPeaches:

Mm hmm.

NobleJanobii:

Uh, and I messaged them. Yeah, I don't, I still don't know how that happened, but nevertheless. I contacted sibling was like, Oh, hey, I'm not actually who you're looking for. Here! Heh heh heh

PenPeaches:

and yeah, it was like destiny there.

David Hernandez:

that's awesome. I love how, you know, y'all both, which I was on separate ways, but y'all still interconnected and y'all's own unique, different way. And now y'all here on the podcast. That's great.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah! Dynamic duo.

David Hernandez:

Oh, yeah,

PenPeaches:

Yeah, I figured our story is interconnected enough, which is why I asked for us both to be on here.

David Hernandez:

no, and I appreciate that because I think it would be some something would be missing if it wasn't. And, you know, I always especially have a soft spot for couples or people who've relationships who come on this podcast, because I love how seeing how Pokemon was able to kind of bring it all together. And, you know, neat way for y'all. It was the Pokemon web comic scene.

PenPeaches:

Yeah.

NobleJanobii:

without, without Pokemon, we would probably never have met and not gotten together.

David Hernandez:

Well, let's start with like the pre log or the beginning before we all met. Penpeaches, how about you start your first, what's your first experience with the Pokemon franchise?

PenPeaches:

gosh. It was my cousin's fault, actually. I was introduced via the Pokemon trading card game, and then like started to get into the anime, and then eventually the video games on the GBA. but yeah, Pokemon was significant. to my art career because that's how I started, basically.

David Hernandez:

How, how did Pokemon lead into your art career?

PenPeaches:

So, a lot of people like the Pokémon card game for the art most of the time?

David Hernandez:

Mm hmm. Mm

PenPeaches:

it was very trendy back in elementary school, you know, to trade your Pokémon cards with the other kids, and I was bored one day in class. And I pulled out a Growlithe card and started, like, copying the art off of it onto my notebook. my deskmates around me, saw me drawing and were very impressed. They, then they came up to me with their Pokémon cards and asked me to draw their Pokémon, You know, it's, it inspired me a lot to like, draw and draw more. And at that time I had like a bunch of notebooks just filled out with drawings of Pokemon and various other media. And yeah, that, now we're like, in 2009, actually. So it's, it's been a while since I started to draw seriously.

David Hernandez:

And do you remember, like, any specific cards that stand out that really inspired you or that you appreciated art at the time?

PenPeaches:

Oh, yeah. even before like elementary school. I remember in fourth or not fourth grade when I was four, there was this horsey card where the horsey was like spitting out smog. And that was the first Pokemon card that I like try to copy the art of and try to draw off of.

David Hernandez:

What was it about the horsey just seeing, like, the smog and it trying to, defend itself? Like, what about it that really intrigued you?

PenPeaches:

I'm not sure, but that was like, the earliest memory I've had of like, you know, referencing and copying off these, Pokemon card art.

David Hernandez:

So, Noble, what's your first experience with Pokemon?

NobleJanobii:

So I started with the CCG as well. when I was very little and I don't remember exactly how old I was, my parents, when, my parents would leave me with a babysitter while they would go out and do stuff. And so there was a family that lived next door to the lady who would babysit me that was really into Pokemon cards. And so they gave me my first pack of Pokemon cards, and I distinctly remember that the very first cards that I, kept and really treasured. It was the base set Pikachu. You can get it in TCG Pocket now. It's like the really, really old like artwork where it has like the purple ish ears instead of the black and like purple brown stripes. It's got the forest in the background. and then the Delta Species Salamence. And I still have both of those cards to this day. The Delta Species Salamence is like in tatters, but it's, have it. That's actually why Salamence is one of my favorite book ones to this day, is because of that card. but I started with that. And then my Next Door Neighbors, when I got a little bit older, were, really into Bookworm and Street Dungeon. And so, and this had to have been, like, I think around 2005 ish, because it was, PMD Blue Rescue Team. My Next Door Neighbors Uh, Linded me their cartridge of PMD Blue Rescue Team. and I played it, and I liked it, so my parents got it for me for Easter that year, and that was my very first one game, and then I got Diamond. Yeah, I got Diamond later on, but when people always ask me, like, What gin baby are you? I'm like, it depends. Are you counting mainline or side games? Because if it's side games, I'm gin three. If I'm mainline, it's gin four.

David Hernandez:

It must be so different to come from a side game into the Pokemon. Cause I think you're one of the, I've only had like maybe five others who have come from a side game. what was it about the mystery dungeon games that you really enjoyed at the time?

NobleJanobii:

loved the friend areas. That was probably my favorite thing. and still to this day, that's like one of my favorite things things to go back and explore. I liked being able to, I remember I had one of my first playthroughs, I had a Charmander for my partner Pokemon, and you got like Mount Steel as like the free friend area with that. And I really liked the Pokemon Aron, and so I just filled Mount Steel with like as many Aron as you could fit in there, and they were just like all over the place because I didn't understand that like it wasn't a limited free space, that there was only so many Pokemon that you could like fit in that friend area, and it was designed to only fit like Basically one of each that could fit in there. So I had like, I think, eight Aron or something in there, and I was so happy. but I love the friend areas. The story was really good. That's still one of my favorite Pokemon, stories to date. I love the whole like, Oh, you're a human turned Pokemon, and you're going to save the world. And you have these, really cool connections with everyone else and the Fugitive Arc is still so good. I love the Fugitive Arc so much and everything with, like, the witch cats and everything and so that's, uh, I have a lot of really fond memories playing with Blue Rescue Team. Uh, I feel bad because I haven't actually, like, entirely finished everything that you could do in it because, like, you know, you start hitting, like, Western Cave and then, like, the 99 floor dungeons and But I have DX, as well, and I've played a lot of time in that, and actually my DX team is named after Peaches and I.

David Hernandez:

Oh, that's so sweet.

NobleJanobii:

Mm hmm.

David Hernandez:

love good, uh, I love good love stories like that. I love connection. So it warms my heart every time. So,

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, I'm, I've evolved us now, so we're, uh, a Blastoise and Raichu, but we were a Squirtle and Pikachu duo for that. It was fun.

PenPeaches:

hmm.

David Hernandez:

you know, you talked about how originally you were doing TCG and, you know, you were inspired by the art. When did you first start playing the games?

PenPeaches:

Oh, I don't really remember, honestly. Um, but I do remember my first one. Um, my first Pokemon game was Pokemon Blue, actually. even though I was, like, pretty young, I think I was, like, in the Gen 3 era, when, like, I first got introduced to Pokemon, that was still my first ever game, Pokemon Blue.

David Hernandez:

That's crazy. I would think it'd be like Pokemon Ruby or Sapphire.

PenPeaches:

hmm.

David Hernandez:

And what do you remember about playing that game? Like, do you remember it being frustrating? Easy? Like,

PenPeaches:

Oh, probably frustrating, because English is not my first language. and like, like you're kind of confused about where to go to, if you don't understand, like, much of the dialogue as well.

David Hernandez:

So I guess maybe give some clarity. So English isn't your first language. So what is your first language? And why was it so difficult?

PenPeaches:

I'm from Thailand. it also is due to the fact that I was really young as well. It was probably when I was five or six, maybe.

David Hernandez:

So I guess at the time, you know, English, you were still learning it or, you know, it didn't comprehend it. So were you basically like just going to the game, like blindfolded, basically trying to figure stuff out?

PenPeaches:

Yeah, I was just kind of getting lost and not knowing where to go.

David Hernandez:

How did you navigate? Do you remember?

PenPeaches:

I think another one of my cousins would, like, watch me play the games too and, like, direct me here and there.

David Hernandez:

Pokemon blue, you stay engaged with franchise? what did your connection Pokemon stay throughout that? As grew up.

PenPeaches:

it's been a variety of things, so the games for sure. I got into Emerald. my neighbors would also have, like, Pokemon diamond or pearl I would be allowed to like, you know, play for them cause they didn't want to grind. I'm grinding for them.

David Hernandez:

Ha

PenPeaches:

then there's the anime and then there's like other games, like super smash pros as well.

David Hernandez:

so you said your neighbors didn't like grinding, so I guess you'd like to kinda grind on the games, or like

PenPeaches:

Yeah, I would, I would basically do it for them. but I was like, Oh, it's Pokemon and I don't have this game. So like, I'm happy to be playing it.

David Hernandez:

Ha ha ha ha ha! So even still at that point, when you played the games, you just You still didn't have your own copies.

PenPeaches:

No, not, yeah, not every copy, so I didn't have like, gold or silver at the time. I didn't have diamond or pearl either.

David Hernandez:

what generation of Pokemon do you find most appealing to you?

PenPeaches:

So, my favorite is Hoenn, the Hoenn region. mostly cause I really liked Emerald. I like the story, I like the designs, I also have, like, memories of it too, of my cousins playing it and just me watching over their shoulder.

David Hernandez:

Noble, so originally you were telling us about how, you know, you entered in through Mystery Dungeon and eventually you got into Pokemon Diamond. That was your first game into the main series. What about you? What generation of games did you find appealing? Especially coming from a, I guess, spin off game perspective.

NobleJanobii:

I'm a big Gassino slash Hisui slash Unova girly. Jynx 4 and 5 are like, and then later on with Legends RCS are like my, my bread and butter. pieces can tell you, I would run, like Nuzlocke's of Jynx 4 And various challenge runs, or even just vanilla runs of those games all the time back in college, I was running them. I've played probably hundreds of hours of diamond, pearl, platinum, black, white, black and white too. I think platinum and then Pokemon black are probably two of my favorite games. The legends RCS has kind of beat out all of them because I really love legends RCS.

David Hernandez:

Ha ha ha ha

NobleJanobii:

Um, but I just, I like, even, even if they've got their, flaws, like, oh my god, the EXP system in Unova is bad. but, they, they are really fun and charming games. I like the, the story in Black and White a lot. I like the gym leader designs and the pathing in Gensokyo. I mean, my favorite Pokemon, Shaman, is from Gen 4. so there, that's a, that's a huge win. And a lot of my favorite Pokemon are from, Sinnoh

David Hernandez:

You bought a good compare contrast between the two because gen four It was definitely like a very big world building generation for me because I enjoyed like how they added like the gods They had a different nature gen 5 kind of built on top of that cuz you got landers You've got thunderous and you forgot the other one. I forget about so, uh Tornadoes turn out. Yeah tornadoes I always forget that one But you know They kind of built out this world with those two generations and some people consider that to kind of the golden area if you Hargold so silver Yep.

NobleJanobii:

I love Hargold and Silsilver too. Um, that was what I had, uh, because I didn't get to play the original red, blue, yellow, gold, silver crystal. Um, because I, I started out basically in the DS era. And while I could go back and play the original Hoenn games because of the, DBA slot that the Nintendo DS had, Um, you couldn't play the Gen 1 and 2 games because those weren't compatible, so you, I didn't have a Game Boy and couldn't play them, so, Heartgold to Silver was my first introduction to the Johto region, and, Those are fantastic games. I have a lot of fond memories of playing HeartGold, I still have my teams from my original playthrough of HeartGold, Platinum and Black, they're scattered across my various Switch games now, but I still have all the ones that I used in those games.

David Hernandez:

Oh my gosh, that's amazing. I still have mine too, but I think all of mine are deposited on Pokemon Bank. That's kind of where they rest right now or in retirement. I guess if you could say.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, I gave them, I sent them into vacation, into like, Palladaia, and then some of them just went back to Sinnoh, so like, they just kinda went to a Sinnoh that is slightly different from the one they knew. Uh,

David Hernandez:

this looks familiar. It just it just seems more older or something like that. So

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, they're like, why is everything cheap y now?

David Hernandez:

what did you think of the remakes of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl? Since that is kind of the era entryway. Like did you like them? Were you a fan of it?

NobleJanobii:

I like them, they've grown on me over time, I was initially like, a little bit disappointed because I had hoped we would get something more akin to like, Fire, Red, Leaf, Green, Heart, Gold, Soul, Silver, Omega Ruby, Alpha, Sapphire, it was more than just like a new coat of paint, like they actually introduced at least some element of new content to it, but, we have officially won the medal of most accurate remakes. They cannot, there's no one else who can take that from us. Gen four, we got it. That's ours. Uh, to the point they use the same code, like, good job, Elica. Um, but I, you know, I can't be too hard on them because I think the art style, I actually really like the art style. Cyrus looks hilarious. I cannot take him seriously. I mean you can't take him seriously in general, but I really cannot take him seriously when I feel like I could crush him with my thumb. Uh, but I, I like the art style. I was really into the art style when they initially announced the remake. They did introduce some new elements of it, the expansion of the underground was really cool. Uh, they also made it to where if you have no friends, you can get Spiritomb, which is great. the following mechanic has a lot of charm, even if it's a little bit buggy. I would love to be able to walk with Torterra. Unfortunately, Torterra walks incredibly slow, but I think that's fine. It's really charming in and of itself that they made the giant world turtle walk insanely slow. Um, I'm working on getting to the point in my copy of Brilliant Diamonds where I can shiny hunt shamans. That's basically the only modern game that you can shiny hunt

David Hernandez:

Yes, unless you find a way to access the old school event, which we might as well just play Blood and Dye and Shining Pearl at that point. So, oh my gosh. Real quick, so I know you said Chimmy is your favorite Pokemon. what about it makes it your favorite? Mhm.

NobleJanobii:

I saw, I remember back when, uh, Shaman was first revealed in 2009, you can see cause I doodled a lot as well like growing up. I was not a very good artist, but I did draw a lot. You can see like a turning point in my art as to when I discovered shaman because I was drawing a lot of like Pichu, Merrill and stuff like that, like somewhat easier, like round Pokemon to draw. And then it's just all shaman all the time. And that is still exactly what I do today. So I haven't changed in, you know, since 2009 in terms of artistic brand. But, um, I it was just I gonna say, not all different.

PenPeaches:

still draws Shaymin if you're into that, like, content.

NobleJanobii:

All the time. That is, that is 90 percent of what I do. I'm just a hedgehog. I think I really liked both forms. I liked the land form a bit more partially because it was easier to draw. Because it's literally just like a cloud with a face and legs. but I, I liked both forms. that it was fluffy, it was cute, it looked like you could hug it, and then when the movie came out, the Skyform, and like, people don't like the bratty shaman. I think the bratty shaman is hilarious. I love the idea that the gratitude Pokemon is just like, kind of a bitch. Like, they're so mean. They're very like, I mean, you are just like worthwhile. You're just, you're basking in my presence. I'm here and you are just lucky to be like around me. Express your gratitude of being in my presence. It's great. I love it.

David Hernandez:

Oh, okay. What do you think of Skyform? Are you more a fan of the original?

NobleJanobii:

So I'm more of a fan of the landform even now, but I think the skyform's a really cool design. I like that they took, like, an angel element to it, because we went from kind of like a pun in the fact that it is a literal hedgehog, um, You know, and so we went from this kind of like cutesy, very like ball shape to an angel that's more akin to like a reindeer. I like that they turned, like, kind of like an antler shape into the wings. Um, I think the incorporation of the feather, or not the feather, the flower to look like a scarf is really cool. I love the little boots. it's a very interesting interpretation of taking kind of an animalistic approach to like I said, an angel of gratitude or like a divine spirit type of thing. especially in media where you see portrayed, it's very spunky, it's very energetic. It's very like, it's the cool to landforms cute. And I think the dichotomy is really cool. And I've done in the past, I've, interpreted Skyform in different ways because I feel like landform because of how it's It's based on, uh, like the simplicity, well, easy to draw means that it's a little bit harder to take different approaches to it, without adding something to the design. Skyform, you can see like out there, people do all sorts of fantastic things with reinterpreting the Skyform. Um, some of it's by adding elements. But the different stylistic approaches of like slightly changing the colors, you know, uh, adding different, features to it. There's a lot more of a basis to build upon with it that I think from an artistic element makes it a lot more appealing. And so while I prefer the land form, the sky form is pretty gay and I have fleshies of both. So

David Hernandez:

So Penpeaches, you talked about how you find both Gen 3 and Gen 4 appealing, And you originally started with Gen 3, I think. No, you originally spent more time playing Gen 3, So what was it? What'd you like about playing through Gen three? You know, do you remember anything that you really, that stood out to you?

PenPeaches:

so this is where my favorite Pokemon comes from, actually.

David Hernandez:

Ooh, I love this.

PenPeaches:

Yeah, so my favorite Pokemon is Absol. You could call me Basic if you want to, but I remember, like, it was a vivid memory of my cousin just kind of walking his character through, like, the really tall grass in that, like, rainy area where you could find them. And then he encounters one, and I thought it was the prettiest Pokemon that, like, you've ever seen. And I think it's just because I'm also familiar, more familiar with the region as well. so it feels more like at home for me, you know?

David Hernandez:

you kind of like know where to go. You kind of know the routes, the region, you know, the Pokemon at that point.

PenPeaches:

exactly.

David Hernandez:

You know, funny thing about Absol, when I first encountered it, I thought it was actually a legendary. I thought it was like one of the roaming legendaries. You remember Gen 2, it was like Entei, Raikou, and

PenPeaches:

it just looked that cool.

David Hernandez:

It did! It was surprising.

PenPeaches:

Mm hmm.

David Hernandez:

What'd you think of the Mega Evolution?

PenPeaches:

Oh, it's, it's very pretty, too. It's kind of like a simple upgrade, but like nothing too crazy, where it like, really takes away, you know, the basic foundation of what it, what it looked like, what it's supposed to be.

NobleJanobii:

I think it should have a baby. I think a baby would be so cute.

PenPeaches:

A little baby asshole,

David Hernandez:

little battle. So yeah, you, I mean, you can sell so many plushes for that.

PenPeaches:

Oh yeah, for

NobleJanobii:

Exactly. I'd buy 20.

PenPeaches:

Yeah, I already have two of them on my shelf right now.

David Hernandez:

Who was your starter when you would play the gen three? Do you have a particular favorite or do you like them all? Yeah, it'd Trico, Torchic,

PenPeaches:

So my top two favorites were Torchic and Mudkip. Torchic was like my first one that I picked on Emerald. And Mudkip, I just really like how funky that guy looks and he's really powerful too, in the end.

NobleJanobii:

He's just a little guy.

David Hernandez:

Can't go wrong that.

PenPeaches:

I heard, I heard you like Mudkips. Yeah.

David Hernandez:

you like mudkips, right?

NobleJanobii:

Oh God. I don't know.

David Hernandez:

You know, when it comes to the Hone games, I remember the story with Team Aqua and Team Magma. And I always found that very interesting in regards to It was the first time I really kind of enjoyed the bad guys, although it Wasn't done well with Team Aqua. I kind of prefer Team Magma's story.

PenPeaches:

Okay.

David Hernandez:

that whole dichotomy of just seeing them kind of try to I guess control climate in a way was kind of to me very

PenPeaches:

Yeah.

David Hernandez:

I guess, you know

PenPeaches:

Yeah, it felt like the stakes were really high but then you got Gen 4 with their whole like space, space time dimension thing.

David Hernandez:

Yeah, they just upped the stakes at that

PenPeaches:

Oh yeah.

NobleJanobii:

Cyrus is just doing stuff. We don't know what he's doing over there.

PenPeaches:

I mean, same with Team Magma and Team Aqua. We're like,

David Hernandez:

they're they're trying yeah

NobleJanobii:

He's, he's 27, 28. Like, we'll be, I'll, I'll understand what he's talking about, like, in a couple years.

David Hernandez:

But it's crazy because I remember, I don't know if you remember, do you remember the music that would play after they unleashed the beast where they'd be Groot on or Kyogre?

PenPeaches:

Oh man, it's been a long time since I played till the end,

David Hernandez:

It's one of the most underrated creepy songs

NobleJanobii:

It is. I remember it.

David Hernandez:

daunting. Yeah.

NobleJanobii:

I remember it. It's, it's, oh yeah.

David Hernandez:

Yeah, you gotta go listen to anybody who's listening to it. Go and listen to it and tell me you don't get freaked out. Just hearing it. It's very unsettling.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah. that's that track. And then the one that plays in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, when Cyrus has, uh, Dialga and Palkia, like, remaking the world. There's, like, also kind of, like, a creepy, eerie music, like, very underrated tracks, but they, they do very well with the music in a lot of these games, I think, and those are good examples of, like, mood setting that you don't really notice unless you're, like, listening for

David Hernandez:

Now What did you think of the remakes, which would be all rise Omega, Ruby Nai? Did you get a chance to play'em? And if so, what did you think? Compared to the originals?

PenPeaches:

Yeah, I did get a chance to play them, and again, it was kind of like I was coming back home. I just knew where to go and stuff. There was like a new Mawville, was it? That was like totally different for me, but I enjoyed that too. Man, I forgot what new like other content there was in that game, but

NobleJanobii:

They added the Battle Mesa in Mega Evolutions.

PenPeaches:

Yeah

David Hernandez:

Mm-Hmm. I love the soaring with lattes. Orias in the sky. like that was a cool, fun concept.

PenPeaches:

that was too Yeah, I just really loved seeing the You know, my favorite game, just like, upgraded, even though it's like, they're still kind of chibi models, if you look back at it, and see, like, the proportions, and you're like, face to face with Kyogre or Groudon, and it's like, oh, they're so tiny.

David Hernandez:

They are, but I guess it wasn't as noticeable compared to Gen 4. I feel like Gen 4 really leaned more heavily into the chibi model, in my opinion.

NobleJanobii:

They, they, they squished the Gen 4 models down really hard.

David Hernandez:

I got to ask this last question before we dive into Bothshell's art. If you're going to do a playthrough of just Hoenn in general, would be the sixth Pokemon you would bring?

PenPeaches:

The sixth Pokemon I would bring, I think I would bring, like, my OG kind of squad,

David Hernandez:

Let's go. I love it.

PenPeaches:

Gardevoir, Taillow. gosh, I don't remember the other three though. I think a Gyarados? I'm pretty sure. Um,

David Hernandez:

Oh, called

NobleJanobii:

five?

David Hernandez:

out.

PenPeaches:

yeah, one of my top five for sure. then I'll have to bring an Absol along too, I

David Hernandez:

Of course. Yeah, you gotta bring, you gotta be the favorite. That's your, that's your ace.

PenPeaches:

Mm hmm. one of my other favorites is Gulpin, actually, think. yeah.

NobleJanobii:

Mm hmm.

David Hernandez:

open or just swallow it or both?

PenPeaches:

Uh, both. Swalot was like my tank in Pokemon X and Y.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, they did a, um, Was it, was it an egg lock or was it just like a regular, uh, Nuzlocke that ended up

PenPeaches:

yeah.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, that they had a small lot that was like, tanky as all get out.

David Hernandez:

That's wild. I've never thought I would meet somebody who was actually a fan of Gulpin or Swallow. I didn't care for it myself, but I guess everybody has their favorites. Or every, every Pokemon's their favorite.

PenPeaches:

Mm hmm. You just get the infestation, you get the poison, and then you just like get some hits in and like the enemy's down.

David Hernandez:

Wow. Okay.

NobleJanobii:

when like, Rhyme Sona's for Pokemon, or Detective Pikachu was like a big thing, Gulpin was the one that they picked for their partner with their rhinestone on.

PenPeaches:

Yeah.

David Hernandez:

Now, Noble, I didn't get a chance to ask you this question. What six Pokemon would you bring for a playthrough with Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum?

NobleJanobii:

I'm gonna absolutely be the basic bitch. Um,

David Hernandez:

I like it.

NobleJanobii:

I'm gonna go with, I would say Empoleon, Starraptor, Luxray. Like, you gotta have Starraptor and Luxray. It's not a single placer if you don't. Um, I would go with probably Rabid Ash, because I really like Rabid Ash. Drifblim. And then Garchomp. if Shaman were not locked in the post game, that would be absolutely on there. But unfortunately

David Hernandez:

Shaman's notable. It's an asterisk.

NobleJanobii:

Yes, that's, that's getting swapped in as soon as I can.

PenPeaches:

Didn't you have like an actual Pokemon run where it's all Shaman

NobleJanobii:

Yes! So, this is, this is back when, okay, so, this is not by legal means, but, So,

David Hernandez:

not, I'm above the law. I don't

NobleJanobii:

is back when you could, like, download apps on your phone, and you could send Pokémon to your games through, like, the GTS. Um,

David Hernandez:

I remember this. Yes.

NobleJanobii:

and so, I had a run of Pokémon Pearl. Where I just traded myself six Shaman and ran through it. And it was, and I still have, I still have this cartridge, so they're still in the Hall of Fame on the copy Pokemon Pearl. it was a, I called it the Shaman Squad, and it was, it was literally just a run of six Shaman. they all had nicknames. one of them was actually, I will say one of them was legit. It was from the Guardian signs. ranger event that they had, but it was, Ovia for, uh, named for the Guardian Signs Event, uh, flora Gracie, healer Striker and Sunny. And they basically, they all had unique sets. So like a striker was like a, a facade set. Sunny was a sunny day set, healer, had like aromatherapy, synthesis, all the stuff. So I, yeah, I did a it was the shaving squad. And unfortunately, because Olivia was the only one was, that was legit. That's the only one that I still have. the rest of them are hanging out on my old Wii in my Pokemon branch with like 999 other, or however many you could fit in there, like a bunch of other shit.

PenPeaches:

Yeah, so you have two answers for her.

David Hernandez:

crazy, right? Two, six shamans and then the team she had before. Although I liked the six shaman before. And for those who don't know, cause I was actually, I actually did this too. It was way back in the day where they had like some kind of app where you can actually like implement your Pokemon, how you wanted it, nature item, even shinies and whatnot, and then you would basically trade your phone with the games get the actual Pokemon. That's how I was able to get the RCS. I tried getting flute for it, but it didn't work for some reason. And all the other Pokemon that were hard to get like, Darkrai and, you know, the mythicals, there's a lot of mythicals backstab released.

NobleJanobii:

Well, the wild thing was is you actually could make them look like at least legit to Pokemon Bank, uh, if you did the mythicals, uh, because they added later on they had a toggle where if you had it with the toggle of like met through a fateful encounter and Like, the area that you met it in and everything else was, like, legit to what it should have been. I don't know that it would have worked for Arceus, but the rest of the mythicals, it would work. It would go through. Don't ask me how I know that. Um, but, but, uh, yeah. And I still have, I have a bunch of shaman on, uh, Uh, my games today on Pokemon Violet, I have, I think it's like nine something. One of them is Oblivia, the, the one from, uh, Guardian Signs. The rest of them are from that Year of the Mythical event, where you could download them onto your DS games. And I just, I, I had. Basically every DS game that you could, mainly DS game that you could get at the time. So I just wanted to shave it onto all of them and sit them for it. and then a friend of mine, back for a Secret Santa event like forever ago, traded me a shiny shaven that probably is not legit, but we don't care because it's cool. I did, I have lost one shaven along the way. We had the Shadows of Almia event shaman. I got traded onto my copy of SoulSilver that has since been, uh, like either lost or stolen. So we have to say RIP to the Almia shaman, but the rest of them I still have.

David Hernandez:

So let's keep it moving forward. I'm gonna start with a pin peaches for this. I want to talk about just art a little bit. So one reason why I brought, both on the show is I want to kind of talk about the art and sometimes some of y'all had some Pokemon stuff. Some of y'all didn't, pin peaches. One thing that I noticed is you had the Amaretto, which I think it was like a remake of an illustration, correct? Or I'm Aldo. I'm

PenPeaches:

yes, um, I did have that.

David Hernandez:

can you like describe like what that's not an original drawing right that's some kind of remake that you saw

PenPeaches:

Oh, it's not a remake. It was actually for this huge collab called the Updated Pokemon Rap. it was a big collab. one artist for one Pokemon, And so we got like 800 artists working on this thing at once, like just

NobleJanobii:

Alternate Forms had unique artists too.

PenPeaches:

Yeah. So I took Armaldo and of course, Jan took the Sky Shaman, I believe?

NobleJanobii:

land shaman.

PenPeaches:

Land Shaman.

David Hernandez:

there's no way why shaming of all Pokemon never would

NobleJanobii:

I know, right? I had to barter for that, because both shaman forms were claimed when I first joined, and so I had initially taken Spritzee, and I had to like, basically negotiate with the shaman people to be like, hey, can I, can I have this? Can I, can I, it's my favorite Pokemon, can I have this? I did, I did get it, but it took a little bit of negotiation.

PenPeaches:

Yeah, so that was for that collaboration. It was an old drawing. I think it was, a 2021 picture

David Hernandez:

Yes, it was. And I loved kind of how you both include both the original and the shiny. And it's like they're battling each other on like some waves, which They're kind of fitting for a model, especially even though people don't consider it a water type. kind of wasn't in the way, in my opinion.

PenPeaches:

Oh, yeah. I also took the, different, like, shiny Armaldo from the Pokémon Colosseum and XD games, because I thought that looked cooler. with the cyan instead of, like Just turning it red. Do

David Hernandez:

All right. Uh, Noble. Now for you, I know there's a lots, lots, LOTS of Shaman art and I could go here all day. But one I wanted to highlight was, I love the one you did for Mimikyu. I think it was commissioned for somebody you did.

NobleJanobii:

Yes.

David Hernandez:

in like a green hat and he was like holding a cake.

NobleJanobii:

Yeah, so that was a commission for a buddy of ours. or sorry, they wanted me to, um, Draw a Mimikyu in the Pokemon Cafe Remix uniform holding the Mimikyu dish from that game. And I don't remember what it's called, but it's, they had like for the Halloween stuff a couple years ago they introduced like a Mimikyu themed dish. And so that was, the cafe hat, Tie and then the, holding the, the dish that it's made, probably.

David Hernandez:

Oh! Ha ha ha! If I chance somebody who, uh, cooks Pokemon, y'all need to look at this picture, cause it, that Mimikyu looks like, uh, a melted pudding on top of a cake. At least from what I see. Y'all need to see if I can remake that. That'd be kinda cool, Anyway, I don't know if I have that kind of pull. But, that was that was one drawing I really liked. The other one I liked was, this is the most grumpy Pikachu I've ever met. I feel like it got sent to time out. It's one where it's arms are crossed, and it has like a little bracelet on it's ear. Ha

NobleJanobii:

that was, oh my god, where did we even get that? So there was a forum that I was on forever ago that I was a moderator and admin for, and they would have, it was, called like, the the peek a foo event. And basically what it was, is it was a sort of like a battle royale setting where you as best you could, forums obviously, we would all like try and, start out as like non Pikachus, and one person would be trying to turn the rest of us into Pikachus. And so it was like, different things could, it was all kind of random, you had different items, um, you could target specific people, but then they would have to try and like, they could do different things to potentially avoid being hit, so on and so forth, there were different games, and so that Grumpy Chew, um, came from the fact that I unfortunately lost in the, that one, where that one came from. And that, the, the ring that Grumpy Chew has on her ear is a ring that I, uh, wore a lot at the time. And so, that was where that came from, is it's like, oh, you've been hit by the, the tactical Pikachu nuke. Become Grumpy Chew! And so I was like grumpy about losing, and so, The, the reason Grumpychew, I drew that one later on is because we had another round of it and I got hit again.

David Hernandez:

But it's great because I saw it. I'm like, that needs to be an emoji on discord. Like it's missing out. Like somebody needs to either. You need to commission an emoji for this grumpy Pichu or somebody needs to make one. Cause it was just such one cutest ones I've seen.

NobleJanobii:

Well, thank you. Yeah, that's, I have a lot of fun memories of Grumpychew. Grumpychew's like, kind of like a tertiary Pocahontas for me, just because I have a lot of fun memories with her.

David Hernandez:

and my last one. is obviously we cannot have the Shaman trainer without some kind of Shaman photo. The one that really stood out to me was the one where Garchomp's holding the Shaman. It's in a scarf. I feel like it was almost like holding a bouquet in a way, although it's kind of, it's more of a wholesome pic for sure.

NobleJanobii:

Oh yeah, I think, uh, I believe that one is, the lavender, kind of garchomp with the flowers on it, right? Yeah, so that's, uh, one of my PMD OC teams, uh, PMD Team Sunfluff, and so that is from a randomizer run of Pokemon Sky, you know, they have like the, the Sky Bridge. stuff that they'll let you randomize stuff on now. And so naturally I use this to play Pokemon Sky, with two Shaman.

David Hernandez:

Absolutely.

NobleJanobii:

Uh, and so one of the first recruits that I got was a Garchomp and I thought it was hilarious because, you know, you've got the two like eight inch tall hedgehogs and then here comes the giant Garchomp. His name is Adam. He's great. He's a gentle giant and he's holding his two teammates, uh, Avan and Kaiji.

David Hernandez:

Now, if you're listening and you want to check out these drawings, hop up. Y'all to go ahead and plug those website. Tell them where can they see y'all's art? Where can they see what we're talking about?

PenPeaches:

Okay, I am Pen Peaches. I'm, under the same name on Blue Sky, Tumblr, Instagram, Twitch sometimes. probably, probably more sites, because I just wanted to claim my name. But those are my main sites there.

NobleJanobii:

And I'm, uh, Noble Jenobi, or Noble Jenobi Art, one of the, one of the two. Uh, on Blue Sky, and Tumblr, the main sites that I post on these days. you can also find me on like a couple other sites, but Blue Sky and Tumblr are the main places that I actively post.

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